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Can Spruce needle cast (Rhizosphaera) be treated any time of the year? #764448

Asked July 28, 2021, 4:03 PM EDT

When I have researched needle cast, most of what I read has suggested that treatment is important in the spring to help prevent the spread of the disease to new growth. We have a company that is saying that you can spray anytime of the year (Chlorothalonil). Is this true? Also, the assumption is that it is Rhizosphaera but I have read about numerous other types of needle cast. Is it important to actually diagnose the type or would the suggested treatment cover any and all? Thank you for your thoughts and input in this, Sherie

Adams County Colorado

Expert Response

Sherie, 

I would double check that is is needle cast. Needle cast is not a common disease in Colorado compared to other states. That said, yes you would want to treat before the fungus is active as most fungicides are not systemic (including the one you listed). If you wanted to email me some images we could go from there. 

Thanks,  

Cassey Anderson  Replied August 02, 2021, 6:17 PM EDT
Hi Cassey,

Thank you for your thoughts on this.  Where could I get these spruces tested?  I am attaching a number of pictures.  The trees start off with good growth but then last years growth will start to show yellow tips, needles will start to lay down, top of branches of previous or old growth gets naked, and then the needles die and fall off.

Are there systemic ways to treat fungus?  Or could this be a pest? 

Please see attached pics.

Sherie 
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The Question Asker Replied August 03, 2021, 9:22 PM EDT

This doesn't look consistent with needle cast to me. However if you'd like to have it tested you can send it to the CSU Lab: https://plantclinic.agsci.colostate.edu/submit-a-sample-2/


Dieback on the needles like you're seeing can have a host of causes from salts, cold, watering practices, to poor planting. How is the tree planted? Do the branches come out at the ground level? That would indicate the tree is planted deep which can be problematic for tree health. Depending on where you live, you may have salty water (if you're out in eastern Adams County this is likely, if you're in a city like Thornton, Westminster, it's less likely.) Finally, last spring and this spring we had pretty intense April freezes just as our conifers (spruce in particular) were coming out of winter dormancy. This could have impacted negatively the health of your trees. 

The amount of growth even in previous years is indicative to me that the tree is either stressed or newly planted. 

I did forget to ask, are they newly planted or well established? Approximate size? 

Thanks, 

~Cassey 

Cassey Anderson  Replied August 04, 2021, 3:36 PM EDT
Hi Cassey,

These were planted in the spring of 2014. They were approximately 10-15’ tall at the time and were planted with a 90” spade.  We have Todd Creek irrigation water which constantly varies - so what it consists of one day may not be what it consists of another day.  We are north of Hwy 7 and just east of Holly St.  Neighbors have stated that the dirt on our land, prior to development, was much higher so I am not sure if we have some “hardpan” soil conditions as well. ??
I have noted the pattern I described in the needles for a number of years with the interior and old growth getting worse and worse.  Nutrient issues?  Oxygen?  We had a couple of small spruces we planted a couple of years ago and they turned pink on the tips.  A different tree person looked at them and felt certain it was from mineral salts. (Todd Creek Water)

Would treating with Chlorothalonil this time of the year have any benefit at all?  Would deep root feeding be beneficial?  (Suggested was a kelp/molasses mixture)

Also, is there any tree disease experts that are local that you would recommend? I will look into what sending in a sample would entail.

Thanks!
Sherie




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The Question Asker Replied August 04, 2021, 10:56 PM EDT

Hi Sherie, 

 So to a certain extent older needles (3-5 years old) will naturally diminish and fall off. Generally once the growth has developed to the point where older needles are shaded they don't perform as effectively and can become an energy sink rather than an energy source. 

That said, with your water source it's definitely likely that salts are a problem. Spruce are particularly prone to issues with salts and unfortunately I don't have a good solution to offer you. Treating with a fungicide will not do anything if the problem is abiotic, and may put the tree under additional stress. 


Good cultural care is your best bet: water reliably 10-15 gallons as the soil begins to dry out per caliper inch (trunk diameter). So if the trees are around 5" you'd be looking at putting down around 50 gallons each time the soils dries out, preferably around the dripline of the tree. 

If the trees are a long distance from any fertilized turf you could feed lightly, but on the surface. Most tree roots collect water and nutrients from the surface and so really are not that deep in the soil (12-18" deep on average) so deep root feeding is putting nutrients where the tree does not need them. The plant also is not picky whether you use an organic or an inorganic form of fertilizer. 

The "local" tree experts that I know of are here in the Extension office or arborists (www.isa-arbor.com "Find an arborist"). Otherwise the Plant Diagnostic lab I referenced earlier. I will say that we've had a LOT of calls about spruce looking poorly this year, and almost across the board it's due to environmental conditions. The best recommendation we have is to improve cultural conditions to the best you can. 

I hope that helps! 

Cassey Anderson  Replied August 05, 2021, 5:12 PM EDT

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